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Interview with Blondie Davis and Estella Drye

Davis, Blondie
Drye, Estella
Bailey, Kim
Date of Interview: 
Relationships with people and places; Then and now
Blondie Davis talks about growing up in Harrisburg and going to Bellefonte.
Charlotte Narrative and Conversation Collection
Collection Description: 
Kim Bailey interviewed Charlotte, NC residents to collect various stories for a class project at UNC Charlotte.
BD (Blondie Davis): Now is this going to be that, on there what we said that time?
KB (Kim Bailey): No.
KB: No. [Laughter] Today is Tuesday, January 21, 2003. I'm with Miss Blondie Davis and Miss Estella Drye. They are sisters and members at Bellefonte. Which one's going to start?
(Estella Drye): Go ahead Blondie.
KB: [Laughs] Tell me about your childhood growing up now. Do you have any more siblings?
BD: Ah, yes. I'm, I'm, you already done said I'm Blondie.
KB: Yes. [Laughs]
BD: And my mother, and my mother's, uh, Susanna Spears Davis and father's Hascar Thomas Davis. And we lived at the shep-hand, lived at the shep-hand's place.
KB: Hm-hmm.
BD: And we really was on a farm. And he farmed, uh, cotton. And every year we would have to, uh, we would pick cotton. And he'd make so many bales of cotton.
KB: Hm-hmm.
BD: And the cotton that, uh, we would make he would give him so many bales and he would keep like so many bales.
KB: So it was sharecropping?
BD: Sharecropping.
KB: // OK. //
BD: // That's // what he was doing, sharecropping. And we'd have to get up early in the morning, you know, to go to the field and do that. And we'd have to go, well first we'd have to hold the cotton, chop it to the right size, and then after he'd chop it he would cultivate it. Then he would lay it by. And then, we'd go back in the fall and gather the cotton-.
KB: // Um-hum. //
BD: // -And // that's when the bales would come about.
BD: OK, and, uh.
KB: About how many pounds could you-?
BD: Oh most that I could pick was 135 pounds.
KB: // Oh. //
BD: // And // my mother, she could really pick. She could pick like 300 pounds.
KB: Oh wow.
BD: And it was a thing they called taking two rows.
KB: // Hm-hmm. //
BD: // And // she would pick two and three rows.
KB: Mm.
BD: And my father, he would pick, he would make him some knee pads-.
KB: // Oh I bet. //
BD: // -And he // would crawl down the isle, down the, uh, row.
KB: Hm-hmm.
BD: And he could really pick too. He could pick 200 and 300 too.
KB: Wow.
BD: And then when we'd go to the gin, he'd take the cotton to the gin. Then he would always bring us some apples and oranges or something back.
KB: // Hm-hmm. //
BD: // And // we'd be so happy. And then on the weekend if we worked real good in the fields he would, uh, take us to the ballgame.
KB: // Oh. //
BD: // We'd // always get a chance to, we wouldn't have to work, you know, pick cotton that day. We would go to the ballgame.
KB: Now was this the Bellefonte Church Ballgame?
BD: Yeah. Bellefonte Church. We had a ball. He was the manager of the team.
KB: Oh // OK. //
BD: // He, // my father, Hascar. He loved baseball. That was his thing, was baseball, he would manage that team. And every Saturday we'd get a chance to be awful, he know he'd going to // have a game-. //
KB: // [Laughs] //
BD: // [Laughs] //
KB: // I bet you'd // look forward to // Saturdays. //
BD: // Yeah, // we'd be looking forward to that Saturday.
KB: [Laughs]
BD: And it was eight of us, so we had a large family.
KB: // Hm-hmm. //
BD: // And // we had to share the work. Each one of 'em had a, had something to do. We, uh, you know, we had to draw our water from a well. Well.
KB: // Oh. //
BD: // -Had // a well. So somebody had to draw the water one day and bring it inside. Then the next day someone else would, uh, draw the water and bring it in. And we also had a cow.
KB: Oh.
BD: Someone would have to bring the cow, go get the cow, bring the cow in for water, to give him water and everything.
KB: So you had certain chores on certain days? // Or you switched? //
BD: // Certain chores, // certain chores.
KB: // OK. //
BD: // On // certain days. And we had wood to bring in for the fire. So we had a certain day to bring in the wood.
KB: Uh-huh.
BD: And, uh, everyday we had a, we had chores like you say.
KB: // Hmm. //
BD: // We // had certain days to do it. And we walked from, uh, in our schooling we went to Bellefonte School-.
KB: // Hm-hmm. //
BD: // -And // we lived, it was approximately six miles, I guess, one way.
KB: Wow.
BD: So we had to walk. And we would walk what they called The Rocky Knoll. We come through some woods-.
KB: // Hm-hmm. //
BD: // -Walk // all the way to Bellefonte, then in the evening we'd have to walk back home.
KB: Hmm.
BD: So, that was-, and we stopped and drank water out of the creek.
KB: // [Laugh] //
BD: // They // say always drink where the water's running over the rocks.
KB: Yeah, // yeah. //
BD: // So // we would stop and drink water out of the creek, stop and pick up walnuts and have walnut cracks, and then we'd go on home. And go home and get our little after, our little evening snack which would probably be a onion salad.
KB: Eww. [Laughter]
BD: Well, they were good // then. //
KB: // Eww. [Laughs] // It was cooked onions?
BD: No, no // they was raw. //
KB: // Raw? // Ew. Bet you smelled nice and good. // [Laughs] //
BD: // Just put a little bit of salt. [Laughs] //
KB: // [Laughs] //
BD: // Just // put a little bit of salt on it.
KB: Hm-hmm.
BD: And for our church, um, on Sunday we would all have to-, we had a large car and we all would be in one car, there was no separate cars, everybody was packed in one car. The oldest ones would hold-.
KB: // Uh-huh. //
BD: // -The // younger ones and well, the way we would go to Sunday School. And sometimes we had lice, and sometimes we didn't, but we'd be driving anyway.
KB: Yeah. // [Laughs] //
BD: // [Laughs] // And, uh, Sunday School and then we'd go to, for worship service, my mother was a superintendent-.
KB: Uh-huh.
BD: -For 25 years-.
KB: // Wow. //
BD: // -Or // more. She was a superintendet for Bellefonte. And we just loved church. And then during the summer we'd have, Bible, Bible School // vacation-. //
KB: // Hm-hmm. //
BD: -Bible school. And we'd go to Bible school and we'd have the activities there. And then come back home and. ( )
KB: Well she wrote down at least a thing. // [Laughs] //
BD: // [Laughs] // Oh just tried to get a little idea. OK, so you want to, you want to take over some and I'll-.
ED: Um, let's see, um, well back up to the ballgame. When we used to go to the ballgames, and uh, our dad would have to go earlier, because he was over the team // so-. //
KB: // Hm-hmm. //
ED: -I would be the one to drive. I could drive, and I would drive. Put 'em all in the, pack 'em all in the car.
KB: Hmm.
ED: And, and I would drive that car and me, I'd get it there. I would tell 'em they'd better be quiet.
KB: // [Laughs] //
ED: // ( ) // Get to the bridge, this bridge cross now-.
KB: // Uh-huh. //
ED: // -I'd // just go, go fast.
KB: // [Laughs] //
ED: // They'd // be just jumping up and down. And they liked that too but they said they're going to tell Mom and Dad on, on me-.
KB: // Hmm. //
ED: // -If I // didn't stop that.
KB: Were you the oldest? // Are you the oldest? //
ED: // No, I got-, // I have, um, one, I had two older, older that I // had-. //
KB: // Oh, // OK.
ED: -Three older that I had. But, uh, some of them is deceased now.
KB: Uh-huh.
ED: Uh, so, I had fun doing that. Uh, going to the ballgame in Bellefonte.
KB: Hm-hmm.
ED: And then, I remember when we went to school out there at the school house, and um, and we used to play, we had all kinds of, uh, games. And we would circle around and play it-.
KB: Hm-hmm.
ED: -At the schoolhouse.
KB: Now what kinds of games did you all play?
ED: Um, we had um, Sally Go Round the Sunshine or something like that.
KB: // [Laughs] //
ED: // We // used to play, and uh, squat, and we would squat down and jump up-.
KB: Hm-hmm.
ED: -And uh, then, and play that. And then we had Hoppy Scotch.
KB: // Hm-hmm. //
ED: // If // you ever, remember that.
KB: Hm-hmm.
ED: We had Hoppy Scotch. And we'd have to jump and then you'd throw something and then you'd jump to that and go like that.
KB: Uh-huh.
ED: So we'd do that, and uh-.
KB: Did you all have a maypole. My mother-.
ED: // Yes. //
KB: // -Always // talks about a // maypole. //
ED: // We // had a maypole, uh-huh. At school-.
KB: Uh-huh.
ED: -At school we had a maypole. And I liked to play at it.
KB: Hm-hmm.
ED: At the maypole, and let's see. And we had these fish fries out there at the schoolhouse-.
KB: // Hmm. //
ED: // -Right // up at the schoolhouse we had fish fries together. We'd have ice-cream and, um, and they'd buy the ice-cream and then put it on this hot ice-.
KB: Hm-hmm.
ED: -And that's how they kept the ice // cream cold. //
KB: // Oh yeah. // Uh-huh.
ED: And fish out of the pot was delicious.
KB: Oh yeah.
ED: So we'd have, it was some good days then. Good old times.
KB: [Laughs]
ED: So I just enjoyed that when it was coming along the way. And, um, let me see, what else did we do? // What other-. //
KB: // Now // with these basketball games, I mean these baseball games-.
ED: Baseball games.
KB: -Were y'all looking at the guys on the team?
ED: Were we looking at 'em?
KB: Yes. // [Laughs] //
ED: // Oh, yes, at // the other team.
KB: // [Laughs] //
ED: // I was looking at Don, // the one that I married.
KB: Oh OK. That's how you met your husband.
ED: Well, I met him through school, but he had to play, when we, our team for Bellefonte would // play their team-. //
KB: // Uh-huh. //
ED: // -I'd // get to see it.
ED: And see what mistakes he would make and then he'd just tickle me to death because he stood there and let the ball game right down-.
KB: // [Laughs] //
ED: // -At // first base. And, uh, we laughed about that. I said, "Ooh you can't play our team." And our team would beat 'em too. We had a good-.
KB: // I bet. //
ED: // -A good // baseball team out there. Yes we did.
KB: From what I hear, you all really did.
ED: Yes we did. Mr. Goldberry // probably told-. //
KB: // Hm-hmm. //
ED: -You about that.
KB: Yes he did. // [Laughs] //
ED: // I know it. // [Laughs] Yeah we had a good team.
BD: At Bellefonte School we only had two classrooms in Bellefonte School.
KB: Oh // really? //
BD: // Two // classes, and we had two teachers-.
KB: // Uh-hmm. //
BD: // Miss, // uh, Thelma Kant and Miss Ethel Pope.
KB: // Hm-hmm. //
BD: // During // in my time that's when the teachers were, but there were some before-.
BD: -I started. Then after I finished at Bellefonte we transferred to Shakertown. We had the bus. They bused us to Shakertown.
KB: Hm-hmm.
BD: And then after we graduated from Shakertown, they bused us to Logan.
BD: And so we had to go through three processes to get to // school. //
KB: // So // Shakertown was like a middle // school? //
BD: // Elementary // school.
KB: Oh, elementary // school. //
BD: // And // Logan was senior high.
KB: Oh OK.
BD: And Bellefonte was beginning you might call it.
BD: And ( ) playing, we would always go to our grandmother's-.
KB: // Uh-huh. //
BD: // -To // play. We had to, we would walk. She lived about three miles from where we lived.
KB: I guess that was nothing compared to six miles. // [Laughs] //
BD: // [Laughs] // Nothing, no we were walking. We'd walk over there and stay all day, then we'd have a certain time we had to be back home.
KB: Hm-hmm.
BD: If we didn't we might get a little whipping. [Laughs]
KB: // I bet. //
BD: // Get a // little spanking, but that was, that was fun. That was the most I, the exciting times.
KB: Hm-hmm.
BD: 'Cause you know there wasn't a whole lot to do back then but // we did have a little, called it-. //
ED: // We were so glad. //
BD: -A little juke joint. We did have that.
KB: Oh really?
BD: // [Laughs] //
KB: // I haven't heard // about this juke joint. When was that?
ED: // Yeah, yeah. //
BD: // Yeah, yeah. // That was on Tall Query Road-.
KB: Uh-huh.
BD: -And then we had one up here that was, uh, Green Valley Drink Stand up here.
KB: Hm-hmm.
BD: And, uh, we had one on Tall Query Road. That was Do Drop In wasn't it?
ED: Yeah, Do Drop In.
KB: So how old were you when you went to the Juke Joint?
BD: Oh, we must have been about I guess I was about 10.
KB: // Ooh. //
ED: // I must // have been about 12, 13.
KB: That's kind of young isn't it? [Laughs]
BD: I wasn't going, she was the one going.
KB: Ooh. Uh-huh.
ED: I was taking her around.
KB: Uh-hmm. [Laughs]
ED: I was taking her around.
BD: That was a little fun for us back, you know, // back then. //
ED: // Back then. //
BD: You had to have a little something.
ED: To get out.
KB: Yeah, you're right. [Laughs] You're right.
BD: Oh I'll tell you, we wasn't afraid-.
KB: // Uh-hmm. //
BD: // -To get// out as we are now if you get out.
KB: Yeah, yeah.
BD: 'Cause it is very dangerous out there now.
KB: Hm-hmm.
BD: You could go and you know, nobody wouldn't bother you or nothing and come back home. You had to be back when they say come.
KB: Hm-hmm.
BD: And, um, we got along fine like that. 'Cause I tell you, when they, "Say get up out of that bed," if you done stayed out-.
KB: Hm-hmm.
BD: -To go to church. When they say get up you better get up.
KB: I know.
BD: Yeah. You know about that too.
KB: I know exactly it was this past Sunday. [Laughter]
BD: I tell you. I enjoyed that. We had to go on back. But we went to Sunday School, I tell you.
KB: Hm-hmm.
ED: We was brought up to go to church. And now if I miss going to church-.
KB: Hm-hmm.
ED: -It won't seem like it's right.
KB: Yeah, // yeah. //
ED: // You // know, 'cause you were brought up in the church.
KB: Hm-hmm.
ED: That way, you know, you never want to, uh, put that behind you. You always 'a want to go to church.
KB: It's like second nature.
ED: That's right. And I always, uh, liked to sing in the choir.
KB: // OK. //
ED: // You // know, in church. We had the choirs at Bellefonte Church. I've been pretty much in those. I think Blondie been in some too.
KB: // Hm-hmm. //
ED: // So. // We all was brought up to do something, you know, in the church.
KB: Do y'all still sing in the choir?
ED: Yes, I got to go to rehearsal tonight when I leave.
KB: Mmm. I talked to Miss, um, Johnson, is it?
ED: Yeah.
KB: Yeah. [Laughs] And she told me about that choir. She's been doing that for a long time.
BD: Yes she has.
KB: A very long time.
ED: I love their singing.
KB: Oh yeah, me too.
FV (Female Voice): I love their singing, it's good.
BD: All that adds in there together.
KB: Hm-hmm.
BD: And it takes all that to make things go.
ED: And Reverend Davis is a good pastor, you know, so we love to hear him too.
KB: Yeah, I hear you.
ED: We just playing to you, you know.
KB: Actually I hadn't-, when I went there, it was during homecoming, so I didn't hear him preach. Then the first time that I went I just stayed for a little while because I had gone to my church-.
FV: // Yeah. //
KB: // -And // I had to do something at home that day // so I haven't heard him preach. //
ED: // Yeah but I // remember he said you was back there and wanted to talk to Miss Love that // day. //
KB: // Hm-hmm. //
ED: Did you ever, did you ever get a chance to // talk to her? //
KB: // No I // didn't. I think she went back home.
ED: Right.
KB: Before I got to talk to her. So.
ED: She's been in the hospital.
KB: Lately?
ED: The last week-.
KB: Hm-hmm.
ED: -But she's home back, you know-.
KB: Hm-hmm.
ED: -Everything's stayed alright. She's out of town, you know.
KB: Yeah.
ED: Her daughters.
KB: Yeah, in Winston-Salem or something.
ED: That's right.
KB: Yeah.
ED: So maybe she'll get back there and you can, uh-.
KB: I hope so.
ED: -Get with her.
KB: I hope so. So you all, you said you got married to one of the baseball players.
ED: Yes.
KB: Um, tell me about meeting him and your family and all of that.
ED: Oh boy. Let's see. When I met him. Um, you know I'd be, uh, hitting the ( )-.
KB: Hm-hmm.
ED: -And he was wanting to ask my daddy if he could come see me you know.
KB: [Laughs] Uh-huh.
ED: So he finally broke out to ask the question.
KB: Hm-hmm.
ED: And, uh, he finally said, "Yes." I could start dating, you know. // And we had to be-. //
KB: // How old were you? //
ED: -I think was eight-, I was 18 I believe.
KB: Oh really? // [Laughs] //
ED: // You // could talk to the boys-.
KB: Yeah.
ED: -But you didn't go out with the boys.
KB: Yeah. OK.
ED: That's why. And so they was kind of skeptic about you know, they turning you loose you // know. //
KB: // Hm-hmm. //
BD: The whole family had to go.
KB: Oh really? [Laughs] [Laughter] Oh no. [Laughter]
ED: I think they would stick Blondie in the car with me.
BD: Everybody had to go.
ED: Everybody had to go.
KB: Whether you wanted to or not you had to go. [Laughs]
ED: 'Til you got to a certain age that you could, thought you could handle everything by yourself.
KB: // [Laughs] //
BD: // [Laughs] //
ED: Oh Lord, you might as well got ( ) one got to come and be with you.
KB: Yeah. [Laughs]
ED: And then, and well when we went to school, uh, he was the bus driver-.
KB: Hm-hmm.
ED: -And I'd get on the bus, I made sure I got on that bus.
KB: // [Laughs] //
ED: // And // he would be driving all over to Logan. And if he didn't drive that particular day I would say, "Save a seat for me if you get on the bus before me."
KB: Oh OK.
ED: "Nobody better not get that seat."
KB: Uh oh.
ED: So that's the way it was. We went all the way through high school-.
KB: // Hm-hmm. //
ED: // -Courting. // And you know liking each other-.
KB: // Hm-hmm. //
ED: // -And // everything. And then it came to pass and we got married. // Had three children. //
KB: // How old were you when you got married? //
ED: Um, I was, uh wait, let's see he was 21-.
KB: Hm-hmm.
ED: -And I was 20 I believe.
ED: Somewhere along that age, 20.
KB: And you had three children?
ED: And we had, I have, we have three children.
KB: Hm-hmm.
ED: And then I, we have six grandchildren-.
KB: Hm-hmm.
ED: -And so, a nice little family.
KB: Yeah.
ED: So, that's it.
KB: So you're in Concord?
ED: Yes, I live in Concord at 355 Devault Street.
KB: Oh OK.
ED: Uh-huh.
KB: Hmm.
ED: And that's where I live.
KB: Have you lived there, um, since you've been married // or-? //
ED: // No, // I used to live in Mt. Pleasant north on-.
KB: Oh.
ED: -Highway 49.
KB: Uh-huh.
ED: When I first got married.
KB: That's not that far either.
ED: And then, uh, I moved on Airport Rd. and then we bought a house in Concord.
KB: Oh OK.
ED: We was going to buy out here.
KB: Hm-hmm.
ED: 'Cause I wanted to always be close to my mom-.
KB: Hm-hmm.
ED: -And uh, and aft-, but she passed away. And then, uh, I- I decided, we uh, my husband and I say we just going to go ahead and sell that-.
KB: // Hm-hmm. //
ED: // -Just // go on and buy something. Sold our land out here.
ED: And then we went on and uh, settled down in Concord. And I guess that's where we'll be 'til the end.
KB: Yeah, you're still a little close
ED: Huh?
KB: I said you're still a little close.
ED: Oh yeah still close to Blondie 'cause she's the only single one out of the family.
KB: Tsk. Oh.
BD: // [Laughs] //
ED: // So, // she's still close and we have to, I have to check on her-.
BD: Yeah.
ED: -And she'll check on me.
BD: Yep.
KB: That's good. That's good. Do you all go to Charlotte often or-?
BD: Sometime I go to Charlotte, but not too often.
KB: Is it too much for you? // [Laughs] //
BD: // Right. //
ED: I go to ( ) I go places.
BD: Some places, you know, you go. // Yeah. //
ED: // Yeah. // I go with my daughter and I do the. ( )
KB: Yeah.
ED: And uh, then I have a young one that's driving, so, she drives us around.
KB: Oh // OK. //
ED: // And // she has a learner's, so you know-.
KB: Hm-hmm.
ED: -She drives us around. So I, she's actually drived my car. // Her mother has-, it's my, yeah. //
KB: // Is it your daughter? Or your granddaughter? // Uh-huh.
ED: So uh, she has the stick in the floor and she can't-.
KB: Yeah.
ED: -Shift gears.
KB: I can't either. // [Laughs] //
ED: // [Laughs] // So I always tell her, "You better learn how to drive a-."
KB: // You're right. //
ED: // -Yeah, // "Shift those gears."
KB: [Laughs]
ED: And, um, so I don't know when she will ever, you know, learn on that.
KB: Hm-hmm.
ED: But I have two is, I have three in fact is driving and with a learner's.
KB: Oh OK.
ED: Three children, uh-huh.
KB: Wow.
ED: Two boys out of the bunch, out of six.
KB: Oh OK. And then four // girls. //
ED: // Yeah, // two boys and four girls.
KB: Hmm.
ED: The grandchildren.
KB: Now, even Concord is starting to get large now.
ED: // I know. //
KB: // Concord Mills and all that. //
BD: // Yes. Even Harrisburg. //
KB: Even Harrisburg is, you're right, you're right.
BD: It is really growing.
KB: You are absolutely right. I remember when I was younger, well still now we still come through Harrisburg to go to Raleigh, but when I was younger // none of this stuff that's on, uh, 49-. //
BD: // Oh. ( ) //
KB: -Was there.
BD: Now they're moving all the timber-.
KB: Uh-huh.
BD: -And building up homes all around.
ED: That's why these deer is running around.
KB: I heard you all have a lot of deer-.
BD: // Yeah. //
KB: // -Out here. //
ED: My daughter live closer out here, um, at the ( )-.
KB: Uh-huh.
ED: -And she said they was up looking in the window.
KB: Yeah-.
ED: Three of // them-. //
KB: // -That's // what Miss Hampton said. [Laughs]
ED: -Were looking in the window at her.
KB: // [Laughs] //
ED: // And // you know that. ( )
KB: Yeah. She said she had to put an owl, a picture of an owl in her window.
ED: That'll keep 'em away.
KB: Hm-hmm.
BD: Oh, I'd never heard of that. I hadn't had no problem when they were walking up on me yet. [Laughs]
KB: Oh OK.
BD: 'Cause I have seen them down below the. ( )
KB: Oh really?
BD: Um-hmm.
KB: Now-.
BD: There'd be two and three and four of 'em and all of 'em look like they'd be together.
KB: Hmm.
BD: And sometimes they'd kind of be in a little line. // [Laughs] //
KB: // I bet // that's a funny sight.
BD: [Laughs] Yeah it is. And you know, you're not used to them just walking out like that.
KB: Yeah, especially me I'm not.
BD: [Laughs] I'm not either. I've been out here all my life now, and I'm not used to deer just walking out.
KB: Yeah. It's weird for me to even see a rabbit and we have a lot of rabbits in our neighborhood.
BD: Really? I see the rabbits hopping around, and squirrels.
KB: Hm-hmm.
BD: Yeah.
KB: Now, Mr. Govan has hogs or pigs // or something. //
BD: // Yeah // he has hogs. He's down to I think one right now.
KB: Oh really?
BD: But he said he'd go get some more later.
KB: Do they bother you?
BD: They don't bother me.
KB: That's good. // [Laughs] //
BD: // [Laughs] // No they don't bother me.
KB: So they don't make a lot of noise?
BD: No, uh uh. You can hear 'em down there. He got some kind of feeder-.
KB: Oh.
BD: -When they flapping that thing trying to get some food you can hear that part.
KB: Uh-huh.
BD: Otherwise they don't bother me.
KB: 'Cause I remember when I went to his house I smelled something. [Laughter]
BD: The air, sometimes, 'cause the wind is blowing.
KB: Yeah.
ED: Yeah.
KB: I was like this is a familiar smell, but what in the world is it? [Laughs] [Laughter]
ED: ( )
KB: Yeah. Smelled like the circus.
BD: Sometime it'd been real hot you know and I've been out there in the yard and. ( )
KB: A nice little whiff. // [Laughs] //
BD: // But he tries to keep it // clean.
KB: Oh yeah. That helps out.
BD: It helps out, it helps out a whole lot.
KB: Yeah, it's nice and neat over there.
BD: Yeah.
KB: Why haven't you gotten married?
BD: I don't know, well I been stayed at home all the time-.
KB: // Oh. //
BD: // -And // I just, uh, well I was dating too, but I just never did really get down to the part where they say get married.
KB: Yeah. // [Laughs] //
ED: // Tell her you have been // engaged though.
BD: Oh yeah.
KB: Oh really?
BD: I have been engaged but, that, that went out so, I hadn't been engaged anymore. I just-.
KB: // Oh OK. //
BD: // -Good // friends. So I guess it's probably not too late.
KB: Oh no.
BD: Do you think it's too late? // [Laughs] //
KB: // It's never // too late.
BD: Never too late.
KB: Never too late. My grandma will tell you that. It's // never too late. //
BD: // Never too late. // [Laughs]
KB: My grandma gets more boyfriends than I get.
BD: Oh really? [Laughter] Oh, yeah that's why I just stayed here at home.
ED: So you still single?
KB: Yes.
ED: ( )
KB: Very. // [Laughs] //
BD: // ( ) //
KB: Very, very.
ED: One day maybe you will.
KB: Maybe, maybe.
ED: I'd say never too late.
KB: You're right.
BD: I just enjoyed life as it has been. // Set in old ways. //
KB: // Do you travel a lot? //
BD: I travel some, yeah, I travel some.
KB: Where have you // been? //
BD: // Well // out in New York, I think that's my farthest distance.
KB: // OK. //
BD: // I've // been to Maryland and DC and Atlanta and places like that.
KB: Do you travel with church or-?
BD: Well, sometimes with the church-.
KB: // Hm-hmm. //
BD: // -But // they all, they have a Unity Group, but I hadn't been with the Unity Group yet. They travel all around.
BD: Oh yeah, they go very-, oh they get all around.
ED: // [Laughs] //
KB: // [Laughs] //
BD: I hadn't, I hadn't done go with them yet, maybe I will one day.
KB: Oh OK. Now you know I'm going to ask you. [Laugh] What that was. Were those birds?
BD: Huh?
KB: // Were those birds? //
ED: // They're real birds.//
KB: Oh they're real birds?
ED: Clock.
BD: Clock.
KB: Oh, I was like wait a minute that's kind of loud for some regular birds.
BD: // [Laughs] //
ED: // [Laughs] //
BD: Estella-.
ED: Oh yeah, that's our, // those are-. //
BD: // ( ) Your // bird clock make my ( ) up out of here.
KB: I got you. Well I thought they were at the door or something.
BD: Uh-huh.
KB: I didn't, I was like wait a minute.
BD: Yeah // but these are in that clock. //
KB: // Domesticated birds? //
BD: That bird clock.
KB: OK. [Laughs]
ED: Yeah, they making all that noise. // Sometimes I look up and say what is Miss ( ) doing? //
KB: // [Laughs] // Sounds like birds are flying in the house.
ED: Yeah.
BD: So that's about it with me. Maybe I'll gout and retire, start doing more traveling.
KB: Oh OK. What do you do?
BD: Oh I work for BJ's. You know BJ's is somewhat like a Sam's?
KB: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. OK.
BD: Yeah, get to work with the food product.
KB: Do you work at the one, one here // or-? //
BD: // Yeah, // I work at the one over here on Speedway Boulevard.
KB: OK. Hm. // So how do you-? //
BD: // It's // just been there a year.
KB: Yeah, // yeah. //
BD: // It's fine // and I meet a lot of people.
KB: I bet.
BD: See a lot of food that I hadn't been, hadn't been familiar with. [Laughs]
KB: That would be the hard part // for me. //
BD: // Oh my-. //
KB: // [Laughs] //
BD: // All // that food. Tasting it all the time.
KB: Hm-hmm. That's the worst.
BD: That's the worst part. Everybody, everybody's tasting.
ED: Hm-hmm.
KB: Hm-hmm and you're not walking those six miles like you used to. // [Laughs] //
BD: // That's right. That's right, you have all // these doughnuts building up on you. [Laughs]
KB: Man. I kind of wish I had to walk six miles to school then I wouldn't be-.
ED: Yeah we had, 'til I was 12, if we walked six one way and then back home.
BD: Yep.
KB: Mm-mm.
ED: We had to walk I mean early in the morning.
KB: Hmm.
ED: It'd be // so cold. //
KB: // In the cold. // Yeah.
BD: Yeah, it'd be cold.
ED: The sun would be shining, you know-.
KB: Uh-huh.
ED: -And we would hold our hands up-.
KB: // [Laughs] //
ED: // -And // make a wall. And we didn't have gloves, we'd put socks.
KB: I believe it.
BD: Ooh.
ED: Put your hands in socks. Why-.
BD: What was that, what kind of ice was that they called, you know it'd be scooping out of the banks. It was-, we don't see it now. It'd be in the banks you know. It's white. It would be ice. // It would be in the bank. //
KB: // Oh, I've seen that there. //
BD: Yeah, it'd be frosty looking. What'd they call it? It was some kind of ice.
KB: Some kind of ice.
BD: It'd be in the, be on the banks.
KB: Hmm.
ED: Oh.
BD: Yeah, it would be so cold.
ED: Jack Frost.
KB: I guess it's not as cold.
ED: Jack Frost.
BD: It wasn't Jack Frost, it was some other kind of ice.
KB: [Laugh]
ED: Well I know they called it, we had, we had Jack // Frost here. //
BD: // We had // Jack Frost too but-.
KB: Now what was Jack Frost?
ED: It'd just be down in the ground sticking up, you know, and-.
KB: // Oh. //
ED: // -It'd // be real white like in // the grass. //
BD: // Really, I was Jack Frost. ( ) //
KB: Hm-hmm.
ED: It'd be Jack Frost because it would be like white looking.
KB: Yeah.
BD: But this would be white looking-.
ED: Uh-huh.
BD: -But it'd be on the banks. // It was all on the banks. //
KB: // Like kind of // on the rocks // and everything? //
BD: // Hmm, // this kind of sticking out on the banks.
KB: Hmm.
BD: It stayed on the banks.
KB: Oh. [Laughter]
BD: Oh Lord-. [Laughter] -Everything, everything is jumping out of the wi-, out of the water.
ED: It ain't jumping out now, isn't it?
KB: // [Laughs] //
ED: // Now // you got to talk on 'til I come back.
KB: Well it's not as cold, well is it cold, it was colder then than it is now.
BD: Oh yeah much colder.
KB: Yeah.
BD: Much colder then than it is now, 'cause you know you don't see a whole lot of frozen // ice-. //
KB: // Yeah. //
BD: -In tubs and buckets and puddles of water now. The bin, that ice would be // there for days. //
KB: // It was probably // a regular thing.
BD: Yeah, ice would be there for days 'cause it'd be so cold that it wouldn't unthaw.
KB: I think it might be probably because of all the pavement and everything that we have now-.
BD: Maybe so.
KB: -With all the // cars and stuff going. //
BD: // You're right. You don't see a lot of // water holes a lot of, you know, puddles of water.
KB: Yeah.
BD: But it, then it would be thick, I mean thick ice.
KB: I bet.
BD: Hm-hmm. Thick ice.
KB: Hmm.
BD: And ( ) sometime my brother would take us-, or get us on the horseback and ride us.
KB: Hmm.
BD: Like if it was two of us, he'd put us on the horse and we'd trot on over here.
KB: Hmm. I haven't-, let's see I have been horseback riding but nothing like-.
BD: // Hmm. //
KB: // -Just // to go from one place to another. // [Laugh] //
BD: // On // a horse.
KB: Or anything like that.
BD: [Laugh] Uh-huh, we had about three or four horses, but they used them on the farm.
KB: Uh-huh.
BD: Hmm. And you could ride, we would get on there and he'd ride us on over here. And then a lot of time we wouldn't be supposed to ride the bus, 'cause they didn't allow us to ride the bus-.
KB: Uh-huh.
BD: -Over to Bellefonte but we would ride the bus to Bellefonte, he'd drop us off.
KB: // Oh OK. //
BD: // And then // he'd go on his ride but he was the bus driver.
BD: Both of my brothers they used to, they were bus drivers.
KB: Hmm. And this was when they were in high school?
BD: Right. They were in high school.
KB: My father drove a bus when he was in high school.
BD: Really?
KB: Hmm.
BD: Then we had a long way to walk from the, from out house to the road to catch the bus that was about what? Well about at least two miles.
ED: Yeah about two miles.
KB: [Laughs] I'd rather walk to school. // [Laughs] //
ED: // That's a // long walk.
BD: That's a long walk // to catch the bus. //
KB: // Gracious. //
ED: // ( ) // Caged up. They let us start riding the bus.
KB: Man.
BD: It was times, I tell you. But we made it.
KB: With all the hills and stuff too. I bet y'all had some strong legs. // [Laughs] //
BD: // Yeah, // I bet we did, did.
KB: [Laughs]
ED: Yeah 'cause we had to walk. It made your legs strong.
KB: Oh yeah.
ED: Hmm.
KB: Endurance too.
BD: Yep. If we kept on walking maybe we would have been [laughs] able to walk now without giving out.
KB: I think you walked enough for // your whole-. //
BD: // Yeah. //
KB: -Family. // [Laughs] //
BD: // We walked, // we walked. That is the truth. People don't walk now and, you know-.
KB: Hm-hmm.
BD: -You ride everywhere.
KB: You're right.
BD: Hm-hmm.
KB: Absolutely right.
ED: Did you tell her how many sisters we had?
BD: I told her that-.
ED: Well we, we had, it was eight of us in all.
BD: Oh yeah.
KB: Yeah.
ED: We have // good times too-. //
BD: // We had two boys, too. //
ED: -When we get together.
KB: I bet.
BD: Three // boys. //
ED: // All // five girls, we get together. We have a good time 'cause we be talking about what happened way back.
KB: Oh-.
ED: And how many whippings we got.
KB: Oh no.
ED: And what we did-.
KB: // [Laugh] //
ED: // -And // all like that. And they used to claim I didn't work hard. Yes I did // too. And they used to say-. //
KB: // That's a shame. [Laughs] //
ED: -See I could haul faster than them.
KB: Uh-huh.
ED: And I'd get to the end, and I would stand up and watch them come-.
KB: [Laughs] Laugh at them probably.
ED: Yes, yes.
KB: [Laughs] You were the mean one weren't you? [Laughter]
ED: Oh that's what I liked. I always done, I'd beat 'em all.
BD: I don't remember about washing in the, in the uh-.
ED: Tub.
BD: -Tub. In the-.
ED: Oh yes.
BD: -Boiling the water in the pot, boil the clothes in the black pot.
ED: With lye salt, soap. Made lye soap.
KB: // You made it? //
ED: // They called it lye soap. // Yeah, uh, they had somebody to make it. Our grandma or somebody made it.
KB: Hmm, what did they make it out of?
ED: Oh, what all, oil and different stuff like that.
KB: Hmm.
ED: And put lye in it too.
KB: Hmm.
BD: // It made it white. //
ED: // They just made it up // and then they were make a pretty cake.
KB: Hmm.
ED: Just pre-, it's a cake-.
KB: Hmm.
ED: -And you know you cut it out and it would be a cake of soap.
KB: Hmm.
ED: And honey, that was, did some good cleaning on your clothes.
KB: I bet it did.
ED: Hmm. And honey had the washboards.
KB: Oh, ooh.
ED: And you get in the tub and you got to do the boards like that when you wash.
KB: With all that walking I know you had a lot of dusty clothes. [Laughter]
BD: Those shoes would be so white they'd be. // ( ) //
KB: // Man. //
ED: Yeah we used ( ) in the ( ) water-.
KB: Oh yeah.
ED: -And that'd make the clothes, they'd be so // bright. //
KB: // Bright. //
ED: Yes they would. They'd be real clean. They'd be cleaner than some I seen some washer-.
KB: Hmm.
ED: Them washers you go to.
BD: I remember about churning now, because I had to churn. And you know the mitt?
KB: Hm-hmm.
BD: And you make the butter.
KB: Hm-hmm.
BD: And you get the butter in the cup. You have to churn. And sometimes we scald the butter. The butter be right soft, and we'd pour so much hot water in there trying to make the butter come.
ED: You'd make it come quick.
KB: Trying to cheat, huh? [Laughter]
BD: But with that butter, when you do it right it would be real good. It would be nice // butter. //
ED: // I'm going to // tell y'all I did cheat too.
KB: // I bet, // I bet you did. // [Laughs] //
BD: // [Laughs] //
ED: When I didn't want to milk the cows-.
KB: Hm-hmm.
ED: -But I had to milk the cow. And I would go down there and take the water to was the bag. And I'd take another bucket-.
KB: Hm-hmm.
ED: -And I'd wash the cow bags real good-.
KB: Hm-hmm.
ED: -And on the other bag, the, uh, pail that I had for the milk-.
KB: Hm-hmm.
ED: -I'd leave part of the water in there and then milk up on top of it. Oh look what this cow put out today. Part of it was water, 'cause I wouldn't want to, I wouldn't want to do it.
KB: Shame, shame, shame.
ED: I cheated, didn't I? I, and I only have to ask for forgiveness all along you know.
KB: But did you have to end up drinking that wa-, that // water milk? [Laughs] //
ED: // Yeah, 'cause she // she would milk, should would do that. So that didn't make it, that didn't make it that bad.
KB: Oh OK.
ED: You know, just a little mi- just a little water to it.
KB: A little skim-.
ED: Yeah-.
KB: -Kind of milk. // [Laughs] //
ED: // -We // did it down a little bit.
BD: [Laughs]
KB: That's terrible.
ED: But she had hog time.
KB: Ew.
ED: Yeah, now that was, um, that was fun too.
KB: It was?
ED: Yes.
KB: I don't understand how you can kill it and then want to eat it afterwards, yuck.
BD: Yeah, yeah kill it then, then-.
ED: Stick it in neck-.
BD: -Shoot him // first. //
ED: // Yeah, // uh-huh. Shoot him in the head. Stick him in the ear.
KB: Hmm.
ED: And he would flip over. That hog would flip over. Let him bleed. That wa-, the blood would come out.
KB: Hm-hmm.
ED: Then-.
BD: Then you had to boil the water, you had to boil the water.
ED: Uh-huh. And have ashes in the water.
BD: Put the hog in the // bath. //
KB: // To make the skin come out? //
ED: To take the hairs off.
BD: Take the hair off. Then they'd hang him up.
ED: Uh-huh.
BD: Hang him up.
ED: And divide him down between his legs, y- you know.
KB: Hm-hmm.
ED: See that rib was right up there at the back.
KB: Hm-hmm.
ED: Except, the way you get all the parts out of him.
KB: Gracious.
ED: The sausage, and then, but you had to cook the beef for the liver mush.
KB: Mm.
ED: And my mama could make some good liver mush // back in those days, she could. //
KB: // I've never had liver mush. It // just doesn't sound very good. [Laughter]
BD: Young people they don't eat pork. They'll tell you // they don't eat pork. //
ED: // Hmm, they don't eat fat. //
KB: // Oh I'll eat // pork.
BD: You'll eat pork?
KB: [Laughs]
ED: You eat pork?
KB: I had some last night.
ED: Oh you did.
BD: Well some of, I will tell you, uh, uh, they don't eat pork.
KB: Mm-mm. I don't want to see all the process now.
BD: Uh, the process, right. It would kind of turn you off.
KB: Hm-hmm. Now I'll eat bacon, and-.
BD: Uh-huh.
KB: -Sausage-.
BD: Right.
KB: -And all that.
BD: Yeah.
KB: But, like um, chitlins and-.
BD: I don't eat very many chitlins.
KB: Yuck. // [Laughs] //
ED: // Well // honey he used to have us cleaning those too. Those chitlins.
KB: Mm-mm-mm.
ED: You pour that water in it // rinse it out like that, and then you let it out. //
KB: // That's a lot of rinsing. //
BD: A lot of work.
KB: A lot of work.
ED: A lot of work.
KB: Too much work. // [Laughs] //
ED: // That's right. // That's right. A lot of work. But we made it.
KB: Yep.
ED: Enjoyed it, you know. And, and um, my dad used to go rabbit hunting, I loved that.
KB: I bet.
ED: Loved that, around Thanksgiving. Ooh I just loved him talking about being out there and hunting rabbits. And then he knew it was time to come in so we could eat.
KB: Hm-hmm.
ED: Rabbit, and then he'd go squirrel hunting and all of that, kept up with all of that. He had beagles, good dogs you know.
KB: Oh, oh, oh.
ED: Yes, they're good old rabbit dogs.
ED: Yeah they was, they called 'em beagle dogs. So they was good dogs.
KB: Hmm.
ED: Them long ears.
KB: Hm-hmm.
ED: There was some good days, back in those times. It was.
KB: Now, um, since we just celebrated Martin Luther King Day yesterday, did you all take part in any kind of civil rights activities or part of the movement?
BD: I'm sorry to say, but I didn't 'cause I worked-.
KB: // Hm-hmm. //
BD: // -But // it was in my, in my head and on my mind, you know-.
KB: Hm-hmm.
BD: -Thinking about, we talked about it on the job you know-.
KB: Hm-hmm.
BD: -Between another lady and I-.
KB: Hm-hmm.
BD: -About what he had done for us, you know, how he paved the way, you know to help, promoting us to be where we are today.
KB: Hm-hmm.
BD: With his great leadership. I thought to myself, it's great.
KB: Hm-hmm.
BD: 'Cause we talked just a little bit on the job. That's the rule. We, as far as being off and able to go to the parades and the celebration-.
KB: Uh-huh.
BD: // -We didn't get a chance to do that. //
ED: // No I didn't get to do anything either. //
KB: I mean did you do anything then in the 60s?
BD: In the 60s?
KB: Uh-huh.
BD: Oh back in the, let's see what did we do? Did we have any kind of activities or anything in the 60s?
ED: Um, I don't know.
BD: 'Cause you know it didn't but recently made the holidays so there wasn't too much to do.
KB: // Yeah. //
ED: // Wasn't // too much going on. They had stuff over at Barber Scotia I know. // And back over there. //
BD: // Back then in the 60s. //
KB: I know, I think it was Reverend Davis's wife, she said she went to see him at, uh, Grady Cole Center.
BD: Dr. King?
KB: She remembers, uh-huh.
BD: Really? Now I never did get a chance to see him, you know, in person.
KB: Hm-hmm.
BD: I just watched some of the things on TV.
KB: Hm-hmm.
BD: And we always have a program at church and programs in the community like that.
KB: Hm-hmm.
ED: And I would mark and imitate him.
KB: // [Laughs] //
ED: // "Free at last, free // at last. Thank God Almighty I'm free at last." I, I can say that.
KB: Uh-huh. // [Laughs] //
BD: // Well, // I think everybody quoted that.
KB: It's the most famous speech.
BD: Right.
KB: One of the most famous.
BD: Yes sir.
KB: So, um, were y'all still in school when they integrated the schools or-?
BD: Oh let's see. See I came out in '60, when were you?
KB: Oh ok.
ED: ( )
BD: So I think all that happened // round that time didn't it? //
KB: // After, afterwards yeah. // After, a little bit afterwards.
BD: Right. But I remember going to, you know, these places where you couldn't drink water.
KB: Hm-hmm.
BD: All that, and, uh going to, uh, these restaurants and places. You go there and they had a little window for you.
KB: Hm-hmm.
BD: They had one right over here on 489, it was a Texaco.
KB: Hm-hmm.
BD: You had to go to the back window and order your sandwich and they passed you your sandwich back out.
KB: // Hmm. //
BD: // You // couldn't go inside and order. I remember that Whatta Burgers were the same way.
KB: Hmm.
BD: It had a little side window around there-.
KB: // Hm-hmm. //
BD: // -You // get to go around there and do your ordering and-.
KB: Kind of like a drive-thru but-.
BD: Yeah.
KB: -A walk up.
BD: A walk up.
ED: A walk up.
KB: Hmm.
BD: Yeah and I remember the, the bathrooms. Couldn't // even go to the same bathroom. //
ED: // Go to the back of the bus. // And all that.
KB: Hm-hmm.
ED: // Couldn't sit but nowhere but the back of the bus. //
BD: // Another thing that I really // witnessed was the drinking of the water and, uh, the serving of the food like that.
KB: Hmm.
BD: 'Cause see, y'all probably never did, y'all didn't, ever stand that.
KB: No, no, no.
BD: Yeah, we had to.
KB: Not at all. I remember, um, who was it I was talking to? I've talked to so many people from your church.
BD: [Laughs]
KB: Miss Zenovia's daughter.
ED: Janice?
KB: No.
ED: It must be Chicken, we call her Chicken. Inez.
KB: No, she lives in Salisbury.
BD: Oh, Evelyn.
ED: Evelyn.
KB: Yes.
BD: Evelyn.
KB: She was talking about going to school and, um, the kids on the white busses would spit on them, throw things at them, when they were walking to school and everything.
BD: Hm-hmm.
KB: And um, all of that.
BD: // Mm. //
KB: // Did // you all do any activities in high school? Like, um, a band or um, like a glee club or any kind of clubs and all that stuff?
BD: No I wasn't // in anything. //
ED: // Not then, not back // in those days.
BD: 'Cause we had tra-, [coughs], we had [coughs], to have transportation, you know-.
KB: Oh // OK. //
BD: // -To go // back to these, uh-.
KB: Go back to // school. //
BD: // -Practice, // rehearse for 'em.
KB: Yeah.
BD: And go back and be in activities and we didn't have that-.
KB: Yeah.
BD: -Access to that. So that's why we didn't get to be in the bands and all that.
BD: And the choir and the glee club. They had 'em, but you know, most of the city students-.
KB: // Yeah. //
BD: // -Would-. //
ED: Participated in it.
BD: -Uh-huh, would do it.
KB: That's what she was telling me too, that y'all said city people. What do they call y'all?
BD: Yeah, called us rural. [Laughter] Yeah, country, country, that's what they said, called us.
KB: // [Laughs] //
BD: // And // see we was kind of on the back burner you know.
KB: // Uh-huh. //
BD: // I'd say, // and they were on the front burner.
KB: Second class.
BD: Right, // right. //
KB: // Students. //
BD: Second class, that's it. That's the way it was. And we were black.
KB: // Yeah. //
BD: // Black // black. Black on black you might say. Wasn't no white on black.
KB: Yeah.
BD: I was black on black.
KB: How did that make y'all feel, // I mean? //
BD: // It made // us feel kind of bad 'cause we always were from the rural, or country. And I'd hate for someone to say the country.
KB: // [Laughs] //
BD: // [Laughs] //
ED: // That // old country girl over there.
BD: Yeah, the country. I-, well she been out, been in the back, and oh my. // I-. //
ED: // We've // been in the cotton fields. // ( ) //
BD: // Oh // I thought they would say // been in the back. //
KB: // How do you-, were-, // how much more citified could they have been-.
BD: // Right. //
KB: // -To // go to that same school. // [Laughs] //
ED: // But // see they wasn't thinking.
KB: [Laughs]
BD: They were thinking they were above us because we was in the rural.
KB: [Laughs]
BD: Out in the country you might say.
ED: Hm-hmm.
BD: 'Cause that's just the way they felt. It was the city against the country.
ED: That's right. // ( ) //
BD: // And // the one that had to be bused in, you know, to the school.
KB: Hm-hmm. I guess, I don't know, in every group somebody tries to make somebody-.
BD: Down.
ED: // Down. //
KB: // Down. // Yeah.
BD: When we all are supposed to be equal-.
KB: Yeah.
BD: -Yet still 'cause they were in the city and we was in the rural.
ED: Hm-hmm.
KB: They wanted to be separated // from you-. //
BD: // Right, // right.
KB: -Distinguished between-.
BD: Hm-hmm.
KB: -You all.
BD: And they had it going on too. [Laughter] Yeah, 'cause we would just mostly go to the games, and I would always go to the football games-.
KB: // Hm-hmm. //
BD: // -And // basketball games. We had a chance to do that 'cause there was a fellow out in the community who could drive.
KB: Oh // OK. //
BD: // And // we would all get in the car with him and go, you know, into town.
KB: Well that was nice.
BD: Uh-huh, it wasn't like driving now. Everybody got their own car.
KB: You're right.
BD: Everybody going their own // way. //
ED: // Oh // Lord, yes.
KB: You are right.
BD: You had to kind of do what you could do.
KB: Well is there anything else that you all wanted to talk about or you remember from growing up?
ED: Um, we had some good times making homemade ice cream.
KB: Ooh, I love homemade ice cream. Now did you have the kind of thing were you had to // churn-. //
ED: // Churn. //
KB: -It?
BD: // Churn. //
KB: Ooh. // [Laugh] //
ED: // It // was harder than the electric thing.
KB: But it made it taste better. [Laughs]
ED: Uh-huh, it does, it sure does. It made it taste better.
KB: All that hard work. // [Laughs] //
ED: // My // aunt used to bake a pie, you know, make some ice // cream. //
BD: // We'd // always have our family reunions too.
KB: Oh // OK. //
BD: // In // the yard.
KB: Yeah. That's how mine is.
BD: Now everybody likes to go to the park or, you know-.
KB: Hm-hmm.
BD: -Have it inside. But we always would have it outside under a tree.
KB: Hm-hmm.
BD: With a long line of tables and a lot of food.
KB: Hm-hmm.
BD: Played all kind of games.
ED: And now we have it at the church. And we go to the church // now. //
BD: // Always // had a family reunion. It would always be, started out being here-.
KB: // Uh-huh. //
BD: // -As a // Davis reunion.
KB: Oh OK.
BD: That was for my family.
KB: Yeah, yeah.
BD: For the Davis family.
KB: And then you added on-.
BD: Then added on the Thompson's. So now we're the Thompson family. // And some more. //
KB: // Yeah, my father, // gosh, my father, my grandfather's side is like about five different names-. // [Laugh] //
BD: // Uh-huh. //
KB: // -To // it. And my grandmother's side has about five different names-.
BD: // Really? //
KB: // -To // theirs too.
BD: You add some more.
KB: Yeah, they have it at the church too, the family church.
BD: Right.
ED: So that's where we have it out at the family church which in Bellefonte.
KB: Hm-hmm.
ED: Got so many, um, what we have about three reunions. Is it three now? I mean with me.
BD: Yeah, probably three or four.
ED: Yeah, we have it out, and we have ours, uh, starting off at, uh, May, in May.
KB: // Hm-hmm. //
ED: // Twenty // ninth of May. Like when Memorial week ends-.
KB: Hmm.
ED: -That's when we start.
KB: Hm-hmm.
ED: And then we go to the Spear's and Caldwell's.
KB: // Hm-hmm. //
ED: // That's // the, that's in August.
KB: I think I was there during that one. Somewhere around that time, 'cause that was during homecoming, wasn't it? The Spears, I // mean the Caldwells. //
BD: // It was in // August. Yeah // it was-. //
ED: // It was in August. //
BD: -It was in August but it was on. [Coughs]
ED: Did you ever come to the picnic we had after the church, a family day?
KB: No.
ED: ( ) You never come to that.
KB: Uh-uh, // uh-uh. //
ED: // OK. //
BD: That was somebody else was coming to that.
ED: But in August then we have one and then the Drye's, see on my, on my husband's side-.
KB: Hm-hmm.
ED: -We even have a reunion.
KB: Hmm.
ED: Uh-huh. So I tell you-, and then we end up at Frank Lisk Park on Sunday. // We have-. //
KB: // Oh I missed that. //
ED: -The, we have the reunion. And then we go to Frank Lisk. You know Frank Lisk Park?
KB: Mm-mm.
ED: You never heard of that park?
KB: Mm-mm. // [Laughs] //
ED: // Oh // that's where they play those softball games and stuff. You never heard of that?
KB: No.
ED: // Ooh. //
BD: // It's // off of 49.
KB: Off of // 49. //
BD: // Off of 49 // Highway
KB: Hmm. Never heard of // it. //
ED: // Um, // you come in off of Ro-, Roberta Road. What is that, Roberta Road?
BD: Yeah, Roberta Road.
KB: Hmm.
ED: Oh, I thought you had heard about that.
KB: No.
ED: Bellefonte even had teams. The girls and, I call 'em the girls, you know-.
KB: // Hm-hmm. //
ED: // -And // the, the boys.
KB: I think they used to play my old church, Ebenezer.
ED: // You from Charlotte? //
BD: // Over there on Sugar Creek? // On Sugar Creek?
KB: Hm-hmm.
BD: You know Rosemary Jones?
KB: Mm-mm.
BD: She goes to Ebenezer.
KB: // Hmm. //
BD: // At // least she used to.
KB: Oh OK.
ED: I bet she'd know, uh, Sa-, what's Sammy's wife name? I can't recall.
BD: // Edna. //
ED: // Adna, // Edna.
KB: Barnes?
ED: // Yeah. //
BD: // Yes. // Uh-huh.
ED: That's the deacon. You met our cousin.
KB: Oh OK.
ED: Sammy's, we call her // Sammy's main slice. //
KB: // Oh then I'll have to, // I'll see her tonight.
BD: Oh you will.
KB: I actually have to go to church in a few minutes, but-.
BD: Uh-huh.
KB: Yeah. I'll see them. I'll have to tell her that I saw you all.
ED: Yeah.
BD: Uh-huh.
KB: I sure will.
BD: His grandmother, that was Oscar's grandmother. We've got-, we had the same grandmother, 'cause-.
KB: Oh.
BD: -His, uh, mother and my fa- our father were sister and brothers.
KB: Oh // OK. //
BD: // Uh-huh, // so he's out of the Davis family.
KB: Oh OK.
BD: Uh-huh. His mother married a Bonds.
KB: Hm-hmm.
BD: Hm-hmm, but she was a Davis when she married.
KB: I sure will tell her. [Laughs]
BD: And your name is, it's probably on this paper somewhere.
KB: It's Kim // Bailey. //
BD: // Oh yeah, // Kim, yeah I got you, // I got in the book. //
KB: // [Laughs] //
BD: I was surprised when you answered the phone yesterday.
KB: Yeah, I saw the number and I knew it was familiar-.
BD: // Uh-huh. //
KB: // -So // I said, "Oh, let me answer this."
BD: Uh-huh.
KB: Well, I'm going to turn this off now.
BD: Oh yeah. [Laughter]
ED: We're just talking now.
KB: Thank you.