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Interview with Faye Griffin

Griffin, Ruth Faye
Johnson, Brittany
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University of North Carolina at Charlotte; South Piedmont Community College; South Pidmont High School, Monroe, NC; Campus Crusade for Christ; History; Student life
Ruth Faye Griffin, i.e. Faye, is a student at UNC Charlotte, a history major, who tells of her experiences both at UNCC and at South Piedmont Community College. She shares her views on classes, professors, and student life at both schools.
2000-2004; University of North Carolina at Charlotte; South Piedmont Community College
Interview Setting: 
Interview took place in a study room at UNC Charlotte's Atkins Library
UNC Charlotte Memories
Collection Description: 
The interivew was conducted as part of a series of interviews recording UNC Charlotte students' reflections on their college experiences, campus life and their educational and career goals.
Interview Audio: 
BJ (Brittany Johnson): My name is Brittany Johnson. Today's date is February 9, 2004. Today, we'll be interviewing Ruth Faye Griffin, a student at the University of North Carolina at Charlotte. This interview is taking place at J. Murray Atkins Library at UNCC and is in collaboration with the Special Collections department at Atkins Library in order to find out students' experiences at UNC Charlotte. [Pause] Ok, could you state your name for us?
FG (Faye Griffin): Ruth Faye Griffin and Faye is spelled with an "e" on the end.
BJ: Ok, and when were you born?
FG: I was born September 21st 1982.
BJ: So, just to clarify, how old are you exactly right now?
FG: I'm 21.
BJ: Ok, and where were you raised?
FG: Well, I was born in Charlotte, but I was raised out in a little town called Fairview, it's in between Monroe and Concord, out in the country.
BJ: So how old were you when you moved to Fairview?
FG: Um, I was about three years old.
BJ: So you don't really-
FG: [clears throat] Not many memories of Charlotte, no.
BJ: Ok, well, where did you go to high school in Fairview?
FG: I went to high school at Piedmont High.
BJ: Ok, and could you describe that for me? Like, size . . .
FG: My graduating class size was about 300 students and the school was, I had two great memories of it. It had a losing football team. I think at one point we figured out they had about a twenty year losing streak. And, the second thing about that school, it's redneck as could be. Um, I would go to school in the morning and you could actually hear the rooster crowing from next door. So, [laughter from BJ] it's a, a friendly little high school. [laughter]
BJ: How were the academics there, did you feel [cough from FG] like you challenged yourself there, or um? I don't know, just if you could just describe the academics.
FG: The school academically for being a country school, the school was very, very focused academically. My parents actually, I was born in a hospital in Charlotte, and I grew up near Parkwood. The reason my parents moved when I was three, was actually so that I could go to high school at Piedmont eventually. You had the basic students who just wanted to get by, but if you got into the honors system there, which I was in, it was very, very focused. Most of um, the classmates I went to school with are now at like Chapel Hill, Duke-- The teachers there pushed you, not really to be good academically, just to be good, but to find, to find your place in life, to find your meaning in life. It was kind of like a community effort I guess.
BJ: Well, you said that your parents wanted you to go to [FG coughs] Piedmont High School, so they apparently were very interested in your education.
FG: Very interested.
BJ: So, what was their type of background, their educational background?
FG: A little diverse, my mom [clears throat], both my parents went to high school and graduated from high school-- my mom from Piedmont, my dad from Parkwood. My dad, while I was in high school, actually, went to community college. For five years he worked part time at it but he got his associates degree in drafting design. And he's been going to Montgomery Community College and almost has a gunsmithing degree. And my mother has just recently gone back to community college at South Piedmont to get an EMT/EMS degree-- so a bit diversed. [laughs]
BJ: How did that, how did that influence [FG coughs] the decisions that you made for college or after high school. Did that have any influence on you?
FG: It had a great effect. My dad was in his 40s when he graduated from college. It gave me a great sense of, if he can do it, I can do it. And, that it's never too late. I also realized that I wanted to go to college straight out of high school, because I didn't want to spend most of my life waiting to do it like they had.
BJ: So you went directly to college after you graduated from Piedmont High?
FG: Um-hum. I graduated from Piedmont High in May of 2000. And that next fall I went to South Piedmont Community College. I got my Associates Degree in Arts from there in December 2003 and I came to UNC Charlotte from there.
BJ: So what was, [FG coughs] I guess, right out coll- or high school, you said, you went to the community college, so what was your, your factors in making that decision? Why did you choose community college and then to end up at UNC Charlotte, what factors influenced that?
FG: There were a few factors. The first factor was my faith. I, I'm a strong Christian and, I had been praying and praying for God to lead me to where he wanted me. And college and career day at, at high school I remember walking past this, this small little booth with this newly formed college South Piedmont. And I don't know how to explain it, but when I was reading through the pamphlet and everything, it just, I knew that was where I was supposed to be and-- There was actually a group listed on there- Campus Crusade for Christ- and I remember looking at it and thinking, "This is it, this is where I'm supposed to be." Coming to UNC two years later was much the same deal. I stepped on to this campus one day, and I felt like I was at home-- Which I had to decide very quickly, because I found out three weeks before I transferred here that I was done with my associates degree. My advisor told me, "You're done; there's no more classes to take." So-
BJ: Why'd they wait three weeks?
FG: [laughs]
BJ: Well, um, so you decided to come to UNCC. Just, you just felt like it was the place? For you?
FG: I just, I felt like this was the place. I'd always; I was very involved in Campus Crusade. I was student leading the group at South Piedmont at that time-- in fall of 2003. And I always knew, I, I was going to go to a school that had a Campus Crusade group. And UNC Charlotte at the time happened to have the largest group in the area. It also helped that I had, I had a friend here, a best friend from high school. So there were a lot of factors in it.
BJ: Well, what were, you said you got your associates degree, but before coming here what kind of, did you have career goals or ambitions, or was it just coming to school, I guess?
FG: I started off really undecided, which was one factor in going to community college. I didn't know what I wanted to do, and [clears throat] my dad had quit his job and had been out of work my senior year of high school. So I knew financially I was going to have to pay for school. Um, I knew I always loved history; I always had a passion for it. And I met this one professor, William Dick, at South Piedmont and he was funny, he was sarcastic, and I remember just, before, he, he just inspired me in his personality and his love for the subject. And I remember just standing in front of the classroom before he would come in and looking out at all the seats and just, I guess, knowing that's, I just knew that's where I wanted to be one day. So, I came to UNC Charlotte wanting to get my BA here in history and hopefully to get my Masters so I can go back and teach community college. And, we'll see about the PhD later. [laughs]
BJ: Well, I guess, that you had some reference toward comparison, because you had been at a community college, so what were your feelings that first week I guess [FG laughs] when you came to UNCC? I'm sure it was a lot larger, but what were your initial reactions?
FG: Space wise, it was such a difference. South Piedmont was not only a small school, it was a split school. Part of the campus was in Polkton, North Carolina and part of it was in Monroe, North Carolina. The Polkton site had like three buildings; the Monroe site had one [laughs]. So, coming here and having to find my way around was overwhelming. I remember the first week here I kept getting lost, and there happened to be a board, like a poster board sign, out near the Belk Tower from Campus Crusade, ironically enough, and every time I got lost I'd come to the Tower and I always came up on the side of the sign that read, "Do you know where you're going?" And I'm like, "No, I don't." [laughs] It was overwhelming. It took me a while to get used to the different languages [clears throat] just to be able to walk between classes and, and hear the languages. You don't get that at a community college or at least not the one I went to. The diversity of classes amazed me, the diversity of teachers-- Quite frankly, at a community college, you learn very quickly do not make the professor mad because you're going to have to have them for the next two years. There's no, in a lot of cases, there's only one or two teachers. In my case, Mr. Dick was the history teacher. So the diversity of it all was overwhelming. I guess, just, just overwhelmed. Everything, the languages, the classes, everything seemed so big, and I know a lot of people, the, think expectations change between community and university, I found they didn't. The teachers at community college that I had were very, very focused. They, they knew they were preparing you to go to, to a university so they trained you well.
BJ: So, you weren't intimidated really, or well, in getting around you were, but not as like in academic scheduling-it wasn't intimidating or?
FG: Academically, I wasn't as overwhelmed, except for the fact that I mainly took English and history courses at community college. And I wrote a lot of English papers, which, you write an English paper completely different than a history paper. And I had never written in my life, written a history paper. At least not since high school, so but when I came here, I, I explained to my professors actually that I had never written a history paper. And most of 'em were kind enough to, to show me how and to work with me on it. That was the only thing that was a bit overwhelming.
BJ: Well, what type of living arrangements do you have here at UNCC?
FG: Um, I live at home [clears throat]. I live at home with my mom and my dad and my twin sister. Its in Fairview, it's about 30 minutes now, since they opened interstate 485. Before then it took me about an hour to get here the long way. It, its ok I find it, there's points where it creates difficulties. Because there is that sense of I'm home, but then again, I'm 21. I'm very thankful many of my friends they're, they're mothers especially have a real hard time letting them go out on the weekends, or, or letting them do their homework. But my mother's pretty laid back and she looked at me yesterday and said, "You're 21 I can't stop you." So-- [laughs]
BJ: So this hasn't, this hasn't impacted your college experience that much cause your saying your still able to go out and do stuff and everything but-
FG: Yeah, yeah. You know, I still um, most of my friends have their own places or what not so a lot of the weekends I'll pack a bag on Friday and I'll come home on Sunday, and in between there I'll just go off with friends and what not. I, I'm very fortunate to have very, very liberal, open parents. So, it, it hasn't really held me back in my college experience.
BJ: Well, good. You said you were, you loved history, you said you wanted to, you know, do history when you came here or study history. Has this changed or has it become a stronger passion or-what has happened with that decision over your course of three years here so far?
FG: I think overall, I still have a passion for history. There's, there's just an attraction to it. But there are days when, you almost feel like you've gotten too much of it. You know there's days when I go home and I think, oh if I have to write one more paper, one more thesis I'm going to go crazy. But then, usually, I don't know, something about it'll spark my interest again and I'll love it all over again. [Laughs]
BJ: Were there any classes that especially were, have been important to you? Or you know because of maybe faculty or just the course study that have really influenced your decision?
FG: I think faculty wise, I'm not sure of his first name, but Professor Mixon. When I came here played a big part. I took an African American history class by him and he was the one who really helped me understand how to write a history paper, how to look at things when I'm reading. I'll never forget, I was having a hard time reading four or five books and understanding what he wanted me to get between them-what the connection point was. And he, he explained it to me this way, because we're both apparently Star Trek fans, he said, "Think of that like Star Trek, you know something over in this episode happens, but you know it's connected to this episode that happened two years ago." [Laughs] And ever since he said that I can read and, and things actually make sense, but he, he was wonderful about just making sure, you know, encourage me, encouraging me not to give up, don't give up. And the other professors here have been the same way, very encouraging very helpful.
BJ: Makes college a little bit easier.
FG: It does, it does. As to one class in particular, [pause] I'd say the one that, it means [clears throat] it means a lot to me now, is Holocaust history with Lansen. I love how he tells it. He tells history like a story, [clears throat] and he, he makes you think about the difficult questions that people don't want to face. So, yeah-
BJ: Well, you, also said that Campus Crusade was probably one of the biggest, or a big reason for you coming here-
FG: Um-hum.
BJ: 'Cause you wanted to get involved so how has that must have had a huge impact on your experience here, being involved, I guess you're very involved in that.
FG: It's had a huge, huge impact. Actually, this is, this is, my second year here, when I came in last year, I didn't really get too involved because I was, I was so burned out that last year at South Piedmont, I don't even know how I did it, but I was teaching two or three classes at church, I was working three jobs, I was finishing up school [clears throat] and I was leading Campus Crusade at that school. And that school is, is a difficult school to lead Campus Crusade at because of where it's at and other factors. So when I came here, I, I took time off. And I've just now gotten back into not leadership, but helping out you know where I can. I think the greatest impact its had is it's a support group. I can, I can be having like the worst day ever and I can see someone from the group on campus and it's like a reassurance of you're not alone. 'Cause there's a great ability on this campus I found to feel completely alone even though you're surrounded by people. And so, just to have a group like that, that you know loves each other and I've met some amazing friends form that group that, they're encouraging, so-
BJ: Can you describe, like, some, like, events or what, what takes place actually in this in the Campus Crusade like um, just events or meetings or--?
FG: They usually have a meeting on Thursday nights and it usually lasts about, I don't know, a couple hours, and they start off, they have like praise and worship music and they have announcements and they have the meet and greet time, which you go around the room and you just introduce yourself to everyone you can find. And they usually have a speaker. They also try to do outreach to the campus, like they'll set up tables and hand out candy at Valentines Day, or candy at Christmas things like that [clears throat]. And they also have conferences where all of the Campus Crusade groups come together. [clears throat] The one I've been to, they had two of them, one down in Florida called Big Break, and they have one in Greensboro called Christmas Conference. And I've been the past three years to that. That's an experience when you walk into a hotel and there's like 2,000 or more college students [laughs]. That's basically about how it runs. And course it's a little different at each school, depending on what each school needs. They are a wonderful support system. I know one night I was here, and it was late at night, and this school never has had the greatest lighting in every place. And I got of class late at night and realized I had a flat tire. [clears throat] And so I just called like one of the guys I knew from the group, I said, "I need help." And I'm expecting him to just you know drive me home or something, and he says over the phone, "Where are you? I'll be right there." And before I know it, there's this whole group out there changing my flat tire [laughing]. So, and that was actually a group of guys from uh, they have small group Bible studies, its groups of about eight or ten that meet different times of the week to study the Bible. So--
BJ: That's great. Guess we'll talk about you, you've been at UNCC for two years, are there any skills or just anything you feel you've gained from just being away at college? Or being more independent at college?
FG: I think one skill I have learned is, I'm a pretty independent person, but I'm also somewhat of a shy person, until I can open up to people. And so one skill I think I've learned here, is there's no such thing as a stupid question and don't be afraid to ask. The first day I was here, I had no clue how to work the printers in the library and I just kind of had to swallow pride and go to the librarian and say, "How do I use your printer?" So I guess that's one skill that's come up, just a stronger sense of being able to take care of myself. Academically I think it's, it's taught me the skill of looking at subjects from all points of view-- to look at the larger picture of history and of things. And it's also taught me the skill of in which I'm continually learning of, getting along with different people. Because people here are so diverse, so-
BJ: Well, have any of the courses here, or just being at UNCC in general has any of that kind of challenged how you were raised, being thrown into this diverse setting [FG coughs] and diverse course study subjects, has any of that challenged--?
FG: It's challenged it in a different sense. I can't think of one course, per say, but some of the classes I've been in, it's quite apparent that the teachers are very liberal. And, so, often, you'll get every viewpoint except for Christianity, so sometimes, that's been frustrating. I think, what got to me the most when I came here was, the, the, I, I guess you'd call it profanity, the language that you hear so much around campus. It didn't so much bother me, as I guess I was surprised, that it was so much used and that the teachers felt ok using it in the classroom. So they were, I had to come to a point of accepting, that's just the teacher, don't take it wrong, that kind of thing. [pause] It didn't really change anything that I was brought up with because my parents are liberal in the sense that they believe you should learn from your own mistakes. You know, if you go drink, you should learn from it. If you curse, you should learn from it, so, they've been very open to just letting me learn on my own. [laughs] So-
BJ: Well what you said about the professors, how sometimes they do feel on, I guess on the same level almost as colleagues and so where that type of language is ok, do you feel like that that kind of degrades their professional kind of status as a--?
FG: I think it does to some extent, um, and granted, there are some classes where I could see where a professor would you know, I mean, I've cursed too, and we all fall into it, there are some classes where I could see where a professor would get so into it that maybe they would, they would let some slip, but as a whole, I don't think it's professional. I think they I know, in, in, in, a, a theory we are colleagues with them, but in practice, we're still students. So I think professionally, I think it would be more professional to just watch what they say. I think they have more of a tendency to think of us as friends, which we are, with you know, a good many of them, but, I think professionally they, they need to do better. [pause]
BJ: Well, I guess you talked about Campus Crusade, has that been the biggest part in making relationships at UNCC? I mean, do you think without that environment, that kind of more closed environment, would it be harder to make relationships, or how has that influenced--?
FG: I think without it, or without any group like it, it, it is harder, I mean, I mean I've tried to this past semester to walk into a class and get to know people in the class, but it, you, you almost can't do it. I mean, I'm doing good to know the name of the person beside of me, but even if you're in the same major, its, its so in and out. People are so busy; you can't form a relationship with a classmate. Which was hard for me to get used to. Community college- you're like a family for a semester. I've got friends that I only had in one class and we've been friends for five years, it's, it's a strong sense of family. And here people are so in and out and busy, you don't get that, so I think that is one thing, not only Campus Crusade, but any other group can give to someone, is that one on one time of just connecting with another human being.
BJ: I guess, you know UNCC is a university, and along with that comes a reputation. So, was coming to UNCC, was there a reputation that you had in mind of it--?
FG: Somewhat, there was more of a reputation for a community college. Coming out of the high school that I did it was so academically focused that, when I told my friends that I was going to a community college, most of them either laughed at me or kind of looked at me with this strange expression of but you're better than that. And then in coming here, I didn't quite get the same reaction but there was a strong not really from friends or family, but I guess you would say society, I don't know how, but, you get the impression from other people you're around, that well, that you should be going to Chapel Hill, you should be going to Duke or Pembroke, anywhere but UNC Charlotte. And, actually the friend of mine that was going here, told me, "Oh, don't worry about it the classes here are easy, you'll breeze right through," which isn't the case, the classes here are very difficult. I, I think it does have a, a bad reputation of being an easy school, and of being looked down upon. I think just because it's right in our back yard, so we overlook it.
BJ: Well, with that reputation, how do you feel the education that you're receiving actually is? And if it's looked as being not the greatest school, how would you view you're education that your receiving here?
FG: I view it as very, being very good. [pause] The professors are not only dedicated to their work, they're well trained. I couldn't believe it when I took a class last semester, and the teacher was giving her like, you know, little resume at the beginning of class, and she says, "Oh, yeah and I got my PhD at Harvard," and I'm thinking, "I'm in the same room with a lady who went to Harvard." [laughs] I think the teachers here are just as good as Chapel Hill, if not better. And the education here is very focused, very academic and it, it's difficult. It's not an easy thing to graduate from here I would say. But it's not impossible either. So-
BJ: Well do think there are any, any you've seen any flaws within this school-the administration, or faculty or just the operation of the school?
FG: I think one flaw I see is miscommunication. I've had it happen to me and I've heard other friends talk about how you need one piece of paper signed and you go to your department and then they say, no the administration signs it, and then the administration says, no admissions signs it. No one really seems to really know who does what job here. There's also a miscommunication between the organizations on campus and the students. I was going to be inducted into the history society and I never knew about the induction until about two hours before it, because there was such a bad communication of telling the students when things are, are going to happen. Communication is just very difficult here. Parking has been an issue, but they've gotten better on that. One thing I've never understood is why faculty have to pay parking fees, I've yet to understand that. [pause] I think, I think the other flaw, is just simply, is something that can't be helped, is it's a commuter campus. And that's one thing it has in common with the community college, is commuter campuses are more difficult to get students involved. So I think that's a problem that can't be solved by the, the college as much as it you know, students have to fix that one on their own.
BJ: Well, where do you see the future of the university, kind of, heading because it is a commuter campus, with all the building that's going on, it almost looks to be like, I don't know, maybe it's not, do you see the future of the university heading anywhere?
FG: I think, I think actually it will even in 30 years time, say, I think it will still be a commuter campus just because of it's location and the fact that typically it's cheaper to live off of campus than it is to live on campus. And there is so many apartments and, and what not around so I think it will continue to be a commuter, commuter campus. I think academically it's only going to get better. The professors they have here and will probably bring in here, they, they seem to set a high standard for them. I think, in 30 years though, the school, I think it's going to be at a crossroads. I think, it'll either go very, very liberal, to the point of what do you think your grade, you know, not to the point of what do you think your grade should be, but very liberal in the sense of no standard of truth, no standard of really, I guess morality after a while. Or it will go the other way to being very, very conservative. And in some sense, I, I see that now, of where I think they'll choose one way or the other and then 30 years time will tell. So-
BJ: Well, um, what are your plans for-how many more years do you have to graduate? Till you graduate?
FG: I should graduate in spring of 2005, yeah, I should graduate next spring with my bachelors in history. And I haven't quite decided, but I'm leaning towards going to grad school here right after that and I think it's a one year program for my master's in history and that'll be 2006. And I should be able to teach community college then. After that, I don't quite know, I'll either try to get a job as a history professor or maybe go back and get another degree if I can't find a job. I, quite honestly, I'd love to be, to be married and have kids by then and you know, help them through school. So-
BJ: Well, if you had to do your college experience over again, would you change anything about it? Is there anything you'd want to go back and redo or erase or anything at all?
FG: I don't think I would change anything. [pause] It's, [clears throat] the experience I have looking back on it now has kind of shaped me and and changed my personality to what it is now. So, I don't think I would really change anything except for maybe, I guess, taking my time. You don't realize, [clears throat] it's an old cliche, but the years do go by so fast. It seems like yesterday I was a freshman. And so to be a junior now, I think if I could look, like talk to myself back then I would tell myself, you know, "Stop and smell the roses, have a bit of fun while you're at it, cause this is not coming again." [laughs]
BJ: Well, I was thinking of that what can you describe some of the funest things you've done here while being at UNCC?
FG: [laughs] I'm trying to think. I think actually, the most fun I've had, oh gosh; it's a little bit of everything. The trips to Greensboro every year for that Christmas Conference are always fun, especially seeing, I always seem to get lost somehow on the way up. Fun wise, I guess the past few months I've really starting trying to have more fun, because I realized its my junior year. So, I've taken up new things like ice skating or roller skating or, like midnight bowling or go out dancing that kind of thing, more so with friends. Which is really hard to balance between you know, I try to get all my homework done between Monday and Friday, because Friday afternoon I won't see books again until Monday. It's hard to balance it that way, but then again it's good, because I've spent so long, so focused, at some point you need that release, so I guess fun wise I try new things. Ice skating is probably my favorite right now. [laughs]
BJ: Well, I guess this goes along with the fun theme, also, but do you go to the basketball games on campus?
FG: I have never been to a basketball game here.
BJ: Really?
FG: Actually, I think that's one thing, now that you mention it, I might, I wouldn't mind doing that before I graduate. Just to say, "I did." I haven't gone to the basketball games here, I've gone to the area hockey games and that kind of deal. But sports wise, I've never gotten too, into watching sports, simply because I don't understand them. [laughs] So, yeah-
BJ: So sports were not at all a criteria in picking a college?
FG: Oh no, [both laugh] actually its, its funny because my, my dad loves racing and football and hockey, so I, I think he was glad where I chose to go to college, but he keeps telling me that I need to like tell someone here they need to start a football team. Cause he, he doesn't like basketball, his response is something like well, why watch basketball when you could be watching you know football or something else, so. Yeah, sports was not a criteria for coming here.
BJ: What do you think? I mean, that is a big thing here about not having a football team, if we're going to be a big university-
FG: You've gotta have a football team!
BJ: Do you think that would help draw some more students, maybe even to be on campus, or what effect do you think that would have on the student population here?
FG: I think it would, I think it would draw students here a good bit. Simply because you look at football wise, I can't think of a nearby college with a football team. The only possible one would be, maybe, Wingate University, and I don't, I don't think they have one, they're a small Baptist college, so, I think it would help draw students here. And quite honestly, no one really thinks about basketball here, it's just not thought of anymore. I find it kind of amusing, I don't know if it's true or not, but I think dad was telling me, what was her name? Cone, I can't remember her name-
BJ: Bonnie Cone?
FG: Bonnie Cone, something about she didn't want a football team here because she thought it was so violent and the joke around my house is that but UNC has a lacrosse team and lacrosse is known for being a very violent sport. It wouldn't shock me if they put in a football team, with in the next, say 10 years. Just because they need to attract students and more importantly they need to attract the revenue. They need the money, so I think it'll, I think it will show itself in the a few years.
BJ: I guess, lastly do you have any else you wanted to say or any really memorable experiences that you had here, that really, you'll just always remember being at UNC Charlotte for this reason?
FG: Oh wow, memorable experiences? I would say one definitely was when I had that flat tire and those guys came out there to help me. I'm trying to think, I think one that comes, that sticks in my mind is, a friend of mine is, is blind so a lot of times I'll pick her up and take her to the Campus Crusade meetings on Thursday nights. Well, I picked her up one time and we went out to eat at a deli around the block called McAllisters and I drove there fine, it's right around the block. And driving back, I got completely lost. [laughs] I had just stopped at a gas station and ask the gas attendant, "Could you help me to get to UNC Charlotte?" Which, I'm sure I had to be so funny, because we both know its right over there somewhere. Um, oh, gosh, other memories . . . [pause] I reckon there's just too many [pause]. Most of my memories are, are built into the friends I've met here, that just have made me feel so welcome here. I'm trying to think. [pause] I can't really think of one that says UNC Charlotte all over it. If I had to, it would be, it would be the flat tire. That, just, that touched my heart [laughs].
BJ: Was anything else at all you'd like to say? Or anything that comes to your mind?
FG: I think just that I really hope within the next you know, several years, you know, maybe by the time my children or my grandchildren are maybe here, or at least growing up that this school will have a better reputation. And that it just continues the way it is now.
BJ: Well, thank you very much. Thank you for your time today.
FG: Thank you!